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The unusual riddle Goldman Sachs might ask you in a quant job interview

If you thought our 101 interview questions asked by Goldman Sachs weren't hard enough... you might be a quant. Quant interviews are typically the hardest of the lot. 

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A Goldman Sachs quant told us that, as part of her interview process at the firm a few years ago, she was asked a series of seven riddles in an hour. This was the least complicated of them:

"In a room there are 253 lions and one steak. The steak is poisoned, so that if a Lion eats the steak, it will fall asleep. While asleep, the other lions will treat it the same as they would treat the steak. If another lion eats the poisoned lion, it too will fall asleep. Each of the lions is intelligent, and aware of the poison and its effects. Do any of the lions eat the steak?"

Think you know the answer? Put it in the comments, and don't cheat by looking at the quant's explanation below! 😑

In a question like this, the process is always more important than the answer, after all there are only two options here, and you could just get lucky. The quant told us that it was all about breaking down the problem into its simplest form. She told us she started with one lion and worked her way up.

One lion would eat the steak, knowing no other lions are around to eat it. If there were two, neither would eat it, because the other lion would eat it along with the steak. If there were three, one would eat the steak, knowing the other two lions wouldn't eat it, for fear of being eaten themselves when they fall asleep. In the case of four lions, none would volunteer, knowing that a group of three would be left behind and that one of them would eat the lion. In a group of five lions, one would eat the steak, because a group of four would remain, and the rationale in that group would be the same as mentioned above.

Continuing this process, a pattern emerged for the quant, in which a lion will eat the steak on an odd number, but avoid it on an even. So, when there are 253 lions, the answer would be yes.

Of course, if you can more effectively argue a reason why it would be no, Goldman Sachs would be all ears. For example, there is a possibility that the lions would all be too risk-averse to participate in a chain that could easily kill them. If you think the answer is the opposite, let us know why.

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  • Bo
    Bob Morane
    6 September 2024

    While I understand what GT_O1 and maryam2024 are writing, the goal of the riddle is to see if the interviewee can translate a real world problem to maths and work out a solution by induction, which is something the interviewer would expect from a Quant and/or Strategist.

    The prisoner's hat puzzle is similar, alongside some variants, was asked at GS years ago as well as at JPM (https://www.reddit.com/r/puzzles/comments/1clshkv/prisoners_hat_puzzle/).

    See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induction_puzzles for more.

  • GT
    GT_01
    5 September 2024

    Its not mentioned in the question that "if a lion is intelligent enough......", while in human intelligence, it's worth noting that even the brightest minds can make decisions that aren't always in their best interest. For example, indulging in fast food, etc. Perhaps it's a reminder that no one is perfectly intelligent ("enough"), and even the smartest among us have our moments of contradiction, proving that intelligence isn't always synonymous with wise decision-making. Hence, the answer is 22.

  • ma
    maryam2024
    4 September 2024

    The question is if a lion is intelligent enough to know that something will get it killed and make it a meal for other lions, then will the lion do it?

    The lion will not.

    There are real life examples in jungle of how lions will avoid such risks.

    So the answer is NONE of the lions will eat it.

    Look at the bigger picture, not the maths.

    If the steak was a crocodile and there are 253 lions and they know the crocodile will eat them whether it was one lion or 253 lions then the lion will avoid going near the crocodile.

    Because lions are intelligent, they are not quant scientists.

    The answer can't be in YES or NO because it asks do ANY of the lions eat the steak. So the answer should be either NONE, or ONE, or SOME. A YES or NO answer is wrong.

    ANSWER: NONE of the lions will eat it.

    ANSWER: means if you don't get a good REQUIREMENT ANALYST such as myself, who understand the question and look at the bigger picture of what the lions (clients) do in their habitat (industries), then you can hire the best of quant scientists and programmers but they will not design solutions that fix client's real problems.

    I am available for Goldman Sachs at £2024 per day.

  • GT
    GT_01
    4 September 2024

    So in a sense only 22 lions will be left out of 253 or no one will eat...!

  • GT
    GT_01
    4 September 2024

    If the lions are intelligent, means their all senses are intelligent and before eating any of them would sniff the poison. And the question does not say whether they were hungry, etc.

    Plus, what sort of logic it is? "One lion would eat the steak, knowing no other lions are around to eat it". And what an intelligent lion is that, when he knows he will die of eating it. And what a poison is this which is poison but letting them sleep not die?

    "If there were two, neither would eat it, because the other lion would eat it along with the steak." So while he is eating the other lion why the others are not attacking him or eating the same lion?

    "If there were three, one would eat the steak, knowing the other two lions wouldn't eat it, for fear of being eaten themselves when they fall asleep." What a LOGIC? How do we know that other two will not eat it? And how do we know that out of those other two they are just looking at each other and not looking at the third one? ANd the fourth and the fifth.....253

    Instead the answer is, 1 will eat it and get killed, then the two others will eat the first and the three others will eat and then four others.......22.

    253=222×23​=1+2+3+⋯+22

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